Sunday, January 10, 2010

the police at our church

the police at our church

the police at our church

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 09:57 AM PST

the police station in front of our church.

on saturday when we had mass at 6.45pm, i saw 2 police outside the church at 6.00pm but they were there for 1/2 hour only. then on sunday, when i went to the church at 4.00pm, i notice a police man and a police woman was sitting under the shade (blue and white shade) with tables and chairs in front of our church. i quickly take a photo with my handphone… from a far as dare not be too near to take. just as i was about to enter the church, i saw 3 police men on bikes riding up to these 2 police under the shade. i guess these 3 were doing their rounds at some other church and had finiished their duties. well i heard later that these police at our church left about 4.30pm. anyway, heard from my friend who works in the church that those 2 were there in the morning already.

heard from my friend too that an inspector did visited the church and gave her his phone contact no., say to contact him if there's any trouble. well at least, the police are doing their job in penang… but i think we won't see them everyday.

the s’gor CPO at it again – DOUBLE STANDARD!

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 09:15 AM PST

'police warns against staging demo' (from malaysiakini)

bl**dy hell!! son of a gun!! whazzit????
(sorry for the language but i'm very very angry). 

very obvious blatant double standard at work!!! shit!! damn!!!

Police today issued a warning against any demonstrations planned at places of worship, especially one rumoured at the Assumption Church in Petaling Jaya, on Jan 13.

what the hell??? mosques are not place of worship? why was it that the after friday prayers demo at a few mosques were allowed and you never opened your big mouth to issue warning?

Selangor police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said any illegal demonstration would not help ease the situation, instead it would only make it worse.

the after friday prayers demo in mosques had no permit too, but they were allowed!!  one group even marched on the street to hand over a memo… but was not stopped at all. we all remember how hindraf marched and were stopped by police (not only that, but roughed up too). 

"I have been informed that an SMS was being circulated, inviting people to assemble in front of church next week, so I urge the public to discard any such plans.

i received the sms too. it was just callling for a peaceful candle-light vigil to protest against the church bombings. what's so wrong with that? and it will be held in front of the church – consider as private place – just like the after friday prayers that were held in front of mosques, which you allowed!!!! bl**dy fool!! what kind of police chief are you????? 

don't forget… before the bombings started, the sabahan christians wanted to hold a protest, the police did not allowed them but the muslims wanted to hold a protest, the police did not stop them! 

"Let us carry out the investigations…let us handle it….do not take any action that may raise tension and aggravate the situation," he told reporters after visiting the church today.

the demo is just a peaceful ones with people coming together in solidarity to hold candles and sing and pray. they are not going to shout loudly, emotionally, aggressively, like what the after friday prayers protesters did!!!  yet those demos were allowed and this… you have not even find out what it is going to be about, you already issued warning. what? because it is going to be held in a church? you will keep quiet (ignore, pretend no hear) if the demo is going to be held in a mosque?? why don't you be like your master, the PM,  to say "we can't stop them if they want to demo"???  

oh yeah so mr PM and mr HM, please let us hear what you said when the muslims were going to protest on friday, after praying, to these group of people who want to hold a protest at a church.  "we can't stop them if they want to protest" – right? you said that, yes, so why shouldn't these people be allowed to protest then? go and tell your police chief slave!! 


here are what some commenters had to say up to date now (11 jan monday 0015 hrs).

by Victor Johan – an hour ago

Wah wah wah! Based on rumours, Police already giving warnings. But when already knowing of announcements and postings made about demonstrations to be, and then organised in Mosque compounds, police did not give warning, but instead allowed speeches, especially of the burning of churches. Police, and UMNO, still thinking that the Malaysians at large are still stupid to buy into all this sandiwara…. No thinking Malaysians will assemble in the first place, and create any chaos. This can only happen in UMNO and MIC sponsored strategy or programme. Justice must not just be heard, but be seen to be happening.

by T.Shanmugam – an hour ago

Just a rumour of a demo at the Assumptions Church and this top cock has already issued a warning and intimidating the people. What about the demos after the Friday prayers? Didn't the PM said he can do anything if it is held indoors? So if the demos are held indoor of the Assumptions Church, then as the PM puts it, its legal? So called 1Malaysia with 2 laws. Maybe Allah blast you Super cock Khalid.

by P.Dev Anand Pillai – an hour ago

Well it is always alright for some to gather and to whatever they like because they belong to the right race but it is never acceptable if the others gather and respond.

Twitter Weekly Updates for 2010-01-10

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 07:59 AM PST

  • RT @netraKL RT @TheNutGraph: Looking back, moving forward by Marina Mahathir. #
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  • Minarets are not an essential part of Islam | Taj Hargey - Times Online #
  • A2 kicked one of Leen's patients in the head today. I tell ya, kids can get away with anything these days. #
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  • Wow, I'd be pissed if this happened to me. RTÉ News: Explosive reached Ireland after failed test #
  • Thinking of going to the Egyptian embassy to join those demanding EGY let the VivaPalestina convoy into Gaza #
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  • Skipping my writers group meet-up tomorrow. My excuse? I'll be too busy writing. Heh. #
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  • Way to go! Aid convoy breaks Gaza siege #
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  • The MacVays lived in Northern Ireland for 200 yrs before finding peace in Canada. Now here I am in Msia & people are burning churches. FML #
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Orang Pandai dan Orang Bodoh..

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 08:46 AM PST

Orang bodoh = pakai credit card sampai maximum, lepas tu takleh bayar (berlagak macam org banyak duit!)
Orang pandai = pakai credit card tapi orang lain bayarkan (pakai kad klon la tu!)

Orang bodoh = ada motor tapi gi kerja nak naik LRT jugak (kes suka 'bergesel'la ni)
Orang pandai = takde motor, takde kereta, takde LRT tapi ada otak (kes suka numpang kereta or motor kawan tapi tak reti nak hulur duit minyak!)

Orang bodoh = company dah sediakan nescafe, milo, biskut bla bla bla tapi gi minum gak kat cafeteria kena bayar plak tu
Orang pandai = tak minum kat cafeteria tapi company punya nescafe, milo, biskut bla bla bla angkut bawak balik !!!!

Orang bodoh = beli suratkhabar sebab nak tengok nombor ekor je pas tu buang
Orang pandai = orang yg tunggu org bodoh buang pas tu dia kutip... dapat baca semua sekali wo

Orang bodoh = kentut kuat kat office pas tu bangga ngan baunya
Orang pandai = kentut senyap sunyi (takde bunyi) baunya... boleh buat unta sakit perut! dhab pun koma sekejap! pas tu bermati-matian salahkan member sebelah guess sapa member sebelah tu?...sibodoh yg kentut kuat tula!)

Orang bodoh = ada masalah cerita kat orang pandai
Orang pandai = dengar masalah orang bodoh pastu cerita kat orang bodoh yang lain, pas tu membodohkan orang bodoh tu...jadinya orang bodoh yang pertama tu jadi bodohs (plural)


Posted: 10 Jan 2010 08:45 AM PST

Bro Rick Says....
Lain padang, lain lalang, lain daerah lain bahasa la.....

UMNO BN Johor Pinda Undang-undang Kerana Takut Johor Jatuh Ke Tangan PR

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 07:13 AM PST

Takut negeri jatuh kepada Pakatan Rakyat (PR), Umno-Barisan Nasional (BN) Johor meminda Undang-Undang Tubuh negeri itu yang digunapakai sejak tahun 1895.

Umno-BN yang diketuai Menteri Besar, Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman meminda bahagian perlembagaan negeri itu yang berkaitan dengan kekosongan kerusi yang melibatkan pilihan raya kecil.

Percaya bahawa Suruhanjaya Pilihan Raya (SPR) akan menyebelahi mereka, wakil-wakil rakyat Johor menggunakan sepenuhnya kuasa majoriti mereka untuk mengubah syarat jika berlaku kekosongan kerusi Dewan Undangan Negeri (Dun).

Mendedahkan perkara itu, Adun PAS – Maharani, Dr Muhammad Taslim (gambar) berkata mereka mengubah Fasal 5: Undang-undang Tubuh Kerajaan Johor yang sudah termaktub dan dilaksanakan sejak tahun 1895.

Mengikut fasal itu, pilihan raya kecil boleh diadakan apabila berlaku kekosongan kerusi dalam tempoh 60 hari dan kuasa menentukan pilihan raya boleh dijalankan adalah Speaker, katanya dalam satu ceramah.

Pada sidang dewan yang terbaru September lalu, mereka membuat pindaan dan menetapkan kuasa menentukan sama ada pilihan raya boleh diadakan atau tidak, ialah SPR dan bukan lagi Speaker.

Muhammad menjelaskan,"semua itu mereka lakukan kerana melihat kekalutan apa yang berlaku kepada DUN Perak. Mereka siang- siang sudah pinda perlembagaan kerana takut kalau Speaker akan menyebelahi PR, seperti V. Sivakumar."

"Ini terang-terang mereka mencabuli sistem demokrasi yang mendokong doktrin pemisahan kuasa di antara legislatif, eksekutif dan kehakiman," terang beliau.

"Sekarang ini mereka berkuasa dan mempunyai majoriti dalam dewan, mereka boleh buat apa sahaja untuk meminda undang-undang itu demi kepentingan mereka. Itulah amalan orang Umno-BN yang kini semakin takut kehilangan kuasa mereka" katanya.

Beliau berkata, dalam isu itu, enam orang Adun PR tidak dapat berbuat apa-apa kerana Adun BN mempunyai majoriti besar dalam Dun Johor. Tetapi, kehadiran enam wakil rakyat PR sejak Mac tahun lalu, menggusar dan menakutkan mereka.

Mengulas kemegahan negeri Johor yang sering dilabel sebagai 'kubu' kuat Umno, Muhammad berkata, gelaran itu semakin tergugat sekarang dan PR yang diwakili oleh KEADILAN, PAS dan DAP bakal mengubah gelaran itu kepada Johor 'kubur' Umno pada pilhan raya umum ke-13 nanti.

Malah, susulan kejayaan menganjurkan Konvensyen Pakatan Rakyat Pertama 19 Disember lalu akan diterjemahkan di negeri Johor, dan sekali gus misi menawan Kota Iskandar akan menjadi kenyataan.

Beliau mendedahkan perkara itu ketika mengadakan ceramah anjuran PAS Kota Tinggi di Tadika Pasti, Taman Hijrah baru-baru ini.

Turut hadir memberi ceramah ialah Ahli Jawatankuasa Pemuda PAS Pusat, Ustaz Kamal Asha'ari.

Selain menceritakan pindaan perlembagaan negeri buat julung kali sejak tahun 1895 itu, beliau menjelaskan mengenai taktik 'Menyekat dan Menghalang' dilakukan oleh wakil-wakil rakyat Umno-BN terhadap wakil-wakil PR daripada banyak bersuara.

Mengenai jumlah soalan yang boleh ditanya setiap kali persidangan. Peraturan lama menetapkan setiap wakil rakyat boleh bertanya enam soalan lisan dan tiada had untuk soalan bertulis, dan soalan bertulis perlu dihantar dua minggu lebih awal.

"Apabila sidang dewan berjalan, kami daripada PR gunakan sepenuhnya peluang itu untuk tanya banyak soalan. Bukan sahaja enam soalan lisan sahaja, tetapi soalan bertulis kami ada pecahan soalan, a, b, c, d….hinggalah menjadi sampai 20 soalan".

"Setiap soalan kami nampaknya terpaksa dijawab oleh Exco Kerajaan, ketua-ketua jabatan berkaitan dan Menteri Besar dalam sidang yang pertama. Oleh kerana bimbang dengan soalan-soalan panas dan cepumas daripada kami, mereka pun pinda peraturan dalam sidang seterusnya."

Katanya, peraturan terbaru menetapkan lima soalan hanya untuk satu-satu tajuk sahaja, tidak boleh ada anak soalan dan tidak boleh merujuk kepada mana-mana media jika hendak bertanya satu-satu isu.

Bagi soalan bertulis juga, tidak dibenarkan lebih dari 40 perkataan untuk satu-satu soalan.

"Begitulah gayanya mereka hendak menyekat kami, tapi kami tidak akan putus asa. Peluang berada dalam dewan dan dalam sidang-sidang dewan akan datang, kami akan terus membawa suara dan isu rakyat."

"Memang dalam media arus perdana mereka tidak laporkan langsung soalan dan isu-isu yang kita bangkitkan. Tetapi, melalui medan ceramah-ceramah umum seperti ini, kami wakil-wakil PR akan terus membuat pendedahan kepada rakyat" katanya. -FMT

The calls and SMS

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 08:33 AM PST

I am not done yet with "my children's" back-to-school expenses. While the uniforms, shoes, etc had been bought during the school holidays, I had to wait until school reopened before getting the amount needed for their fees, workbooks and whatever else that needed to be bought at or paid to the respective schools.

Rosnah SMSed me to inform me of her daughter's school fees. I replied her SMS, asking if she'd be home during the day this coming week. She works on shifts, so if she's on night shift, I can visit her during the daytime, pass her the money and collect the receipts or whatever supporting documents. Rosnah's reply came…

"Keja pagi tapi nak jumpa dr pkr 14#1"

Huh?? After a few minutes of trying, I still could not comprehend her message. So I replied, saying I couldn't understand what she meant. I waited, but her reply never came. Either she herself couldn't understand her message (hehehe) or she couldn't understand what I didn't understand… (do YOU understand?!)

The next day Rosnah called. She told me she'd be home over the weekend if I wanted to visit. I had already planned to have a good rest at home and I was not about to change my plans unless there was any emergencies. I didn't consider this an emergency. Then she told me her appointment at the HIV clinic would be on 14th January. Ohh… so "dr pkr" is doktor pakar! (no, dr is not for "dari" and pkr doesn't represent the political party) And 14#1 is 14/1. Aduh… pening kepala otak orang tua ni  nak comprehend bahasa SMS lah!

After that another SMS came from Mrs K. Despite apologising for her earlier message, this time again she repeated her long mendayu-dayu SMS without comma and fullstop. And again she was still attempting to borrow money from me, this time even asking me to give my bank account number as well, so she could pay back the money by remitting the money direct into my bank account at the end of the month when Mr K gets his pay. If you recall in her earlier message she mentioned Mr K would get his pay on the 10th, now she says end of the month? Sheesh. Again, I just McDonno… I didn't even bother to reply. Am getting tired of advising them… am getting tired of lecturing them. To think that Mrs K thinks I'm "garang" yet she has not given up trying to borrow money from me, I wonder how it would be if she thinks I'm so lemah-lembut and angelic… (dah, siapa pulak yang bunyi macam nak termuntah tu? ;-))

And oh, guess who called me last week? One of the most colourful characters in my 2008 postings but a bit quiet in 2009. Yep, none other than Yah. And as always, she called from a new number. Anyway, all she wanted when she called me was to ask if "pejabat BaitulMal kat sebelah kiri ke sebelah kanan?" Aduh, ini perempuan! In the first place, how on earth was I to know where she was standing/facing, for me to know if the office was on the left or on the right? And secondly, she could have easily asked anyone around the area! Maybe it was just her way to tell me that she's still alive and kicking. Well, I was quite busy that day. A female neighbor who's also a relative passed away and I had to guide her daughters with the pengurusan jenazah, therefore I had to cut the conversation short. So, sorry, but despite that call from Yah, no updates of whatever she's been up to of late.

I will need to make quite a number of calls this coming week. We're organising a gathering at the end of the month for the PLHIVs – separate gatherings for the male and female PLHIVs, to enable them to get to know one another and to open up to each other. For the female gathering, we allow them to bring their children as well. Otherwise it'll be difficult to get them to join.

I hope I can get enough positive responses to get this thing going…

Home Ministry not worried. Tourism Ministry worried

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 05:05 AM PST

RAUB, Jan 10 – The Tourism Ministry fears that attempts of arson on several churches in the country may threaten its tourism industry's growth.

Its minister Datuk Seri Dr Ng Yen Yen sad the religious tension could cause fear among foreign tourists of visiting Malaysia, hence affecting its economy.

"This is the communicaton era, so information travels fast...tourists will choose not to visit a country faced with conflicts, especially religious conflicts," she told reporters after officiating at a Christmas and New Year celebration attended by about 150 Christians, here, today.

Dr Ng said the church attacks were sending the wrong message to foreign tourists when Malaysia was always touted as a harmonious country despite its multiracial and multi-religious society.

While the ministry had not received information on the effects of the incidents on tourist arrivals in Malaysia, she said, "We are monitoring the developments through our offices overseas."

Dr Ng, who condemned the church attacks, said the people should not be influenced by the actions of a few who were out to create chaos in the country.

She said the Barisan Nasional (BN) government, which at all times wanted to safeguard peace and religious freedom in this country, would ensure the individuals involved would face appropriate action.

So far, seven churches with the latest in Miri, Sarawak as well as the church and guard post at Sekolah Menengah Convent in Taiping, Perak have been attacked. – Bernama

(Source: The Malaysian Insider)

When Home Minister says need not worry, we better start to worry

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 05:00 AM PST

RAWANG, Jan 10 (Bernama) -- Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein has called on the people not to be influenced by reports on the Internet or text messages pertaining to the situation in the country.

He made the call as he confirmed that seven churches had become the target of vandalism in the country, including one in Miri, Sarawak and two in Taiping, Perak which were reported Sunday.

"The situation is under control and the people should not be worried. I wish to remind the public not to be influenced by reports on the Internet or text messages," he told reporters after opening an education motivation programme under the Juara Rakyat initiative at the Bukit Sentosa exposition ground in Bukit Beruntung near here.

In the incident in Miri, the glass windows of the Good Shepherd Church were shattered after being thrown with bricks, according to a church member.

In Taiping, the All Saints church and the St Louis Catholic church were thrown with Molotov cocktails but suffered no damage.

Meanwhile, the school guard post of Sekolah Menengah Convent, also in Taiping, was slightly damaged when its glass window panels were shattered by a Molotov cocktail thrown into the school compound. It did not detonate.

Meanwhile, police in Melaka are investigating a paint splashing incident on a church in Durian Daun.

Melaka Tengah OCPD ACP Sallehhudin Abd Rahman said the church management came to know of the incident at about 9am and that a police report was lodged at 12.30pm.

Meanwhile, Hishammuddin also urged the people not to blindly believe reports by foreign media on the arson attempts on churches, saying these reports were not a reflection of the actual situation.

He added that some of the reports gave the impression as though the situation was out of control.

Towards this end, Hishammuddin said, the Home Ministry would brief representatives of foreign missions to give them the true picture of the situation.

"We need to explain to the people outside the country as the issue has been played up by certain parties. So we will be meeting the envoys and I myself will brief them," he said.

Hishammuddin also slammed those who dragged Umno and the government into the issue.

"I, as the Home Minister and Umno vice-president, would like to remind those who drag Umno and government into the issue not to play with fire.

"Allegations that Umno is behind all these are a big lie," he said.

Meanwhile, the management of Metro Tabernacle church in Desa Melawati, which suffered serious damage due to a firebomb attack on Friday, has expressed the hope that the Selayang Municipal Council could expedite their application for a new church in Batu Caves.

One of the church's pastors Robert Tan told Bernama that the application was made before the attack and that the church hoped that the matter can be resolved within the next two weeks.

Due to the damage, its Sunday services will now held at Wisma MCA, Jalan Ampang.

He also said that the CIMB Foundation had donated RM100,000 to the church which was handed over by CIMB Group chief executive Datuk Seri Nazir Tun Razak at Wisma MCA today.

Yesterday, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak announced an allocation of RM500,000 to the church.

A check at the church showed police patrol cars making their rounds in the area.


When will the Home Minister start to worry is a cause of worry! How many more churches need to become the target of arson attacks or other forms of attack before the situation gets out of control? 10? 20? 30? 100?

Umno Kikis Sifat Hormat Ugama Punca Serangan Gereja

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 04:24 AM PST

Mursyidul Am PAS, Tuan Guru Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat mendakwa kejadian serangan membakar gereja kelmarin berlaku kerana Umno telah menghilangkan sensitiviti dosa dan pahala dalam masyarakat di negara ini khususnya orang Melayu itu sendiri.

Kesan hilangnya sensitiviti itu, katanya telah menyebabkan masyarakat melakukan pelbagai kesalahan termasuk tidak menghormati agama lain sehingga membakar gereja dan mengarak kepala lembu seperti berlaku di Shah Alam baru-baru ini.

"Tiap-tiap orang nak bakar gereja kena reti (tahu) gereja ini harta kawan kita orang Kristian, bila kita bakar kita lukakan hati dia, berdosa kita di akhirat kelak.

"Sama juga arak kepala lembu, melukakan hati orang India (Hindu), ini berdosa. Tapi perasaan dosa pahala tidak ada dalam orang Melayu sekarang kerana telah dibuang oleh Umno, ini kita dukacita," katanya yang juga Menteri Besar Kelantan.

Beliau berkata demikian dalam sidang media selepas menyampaikan ucapan penutup program Taklimat Penerangan Isu-isu Semasa di Auditorium Dewan Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam (MBSA) petang tadi.

Selain itu, hilangnya sensitiviti tersebut juga, jelasnya telah mengakibatkan banyak perkara-perkara yang tidak sepatutnya, berlaku dalam negara kita.

Umno, jelasnya telah menghilangkan sensitiviti tersebut dari hati orang Melayu apabila membezakan ajaran agama Islam dengan politik dengan berpendirian agama lain, politik lain.

"Sebab itu lah menteri rasuah, orang kampung rasuah, parti-parti rasuah hatta enjin kapal pun boleh dijual senang-senang sahaja, mana boleh jual kalau tidak ada rasuah,"
jelasnya lagi.

Di dalam ucapan penutupnya sebelum itu, beliau mengingatkan seluruh pimpinan dan jentera PAS meneruskan usaha memberi penerangan kepada masyarakat selaras dengan tugas yang dipikul oleh Nabi-nabi.

Beliau mengakui ianya bukan sesuatu yang mudah kerana perlu berdepan bermacam halangan.

Apatah lagi, ianya sesuatu yang boleh dianggap baru dan bertentangan dengan apa yang dibawa zaman penjajahan Inggeris.

"Kerja PAS hari ni memang buat kerja baru, yang (zaman) Inggeris dulu tidak buat, Umno dia (hanya) sambung kerja buat Inggeris," katanya. -harakahdaily video : TVS

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My Kindergarten School's Church Got Attacked by Fanatical Anti-Christian! WTF!!

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 04:12 AM PST

Polis memeriksa dinding bangunan sebuah gereja di Durian Daun, Melaka yang dilempar cat hitam.
MELAKA, Jan 10 – Polis sedang menyiasat perbuatan melempar cat hitam ke dinding sebuah gereja di Durian Daun, kata Ketua Polis Daerah Melaka Tengah, ACP Sallehhudin Abd Rahman.

Kejadian itu disedari pihak gereja itu kira-kira pukul 9 pagi dan laporan polis dibuat di Ibu Pejabat Polis Melaka Tengah di sini, pada pukul 12.30 tengah hari tadi.
"Kita melihat kes ini secara serius memandangkan ini adalah isu sensitif, polis tidak akan berkompromi dengan mana-mana pihak yang cuba menggugat keharmonian di negara  ini," kata beliau kepada pemberita di sini, hari ini.
Dipetik Bernama, Sallehhudin berkata polis sedang menjalankan siasatan mengikut Seksyen 295 Kanun Keseksaan yang membawa hukuman penjara dua tahun atau denda atau kedua-duanya sekali, jika sabit kesalahan.
Sementara itu, Ketua Menteri Melaka Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam menasihati orang ramai supaya bertenang dengan tidak melakukan perbuatan yang boleh menimbulkan ketegangan serta melanggar undang-undang negara.
Sambil meminta polis mengambil tindakan sewajarnya terhadap mereka yang cuba menggugat keharmonian kaum yang dinikmati selama ini, beliau mahu semua pemilik rumah ibadat menjaga rumah ibadat masing-masing dan dalam masa sama polis membuat pemantauan.
Pagi tadi, Menteri Dalam Negeri Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein berkata tujuh buah gereja termasuk yang terbaru di Miri, Sarawak, menjadi sasaran cubaan membakar setakat ini.
Beliau berkata selain gereja di Miri, kes terbaru turut membabitkan gereja All Saints dan pos pengawal Sekolah Menengah Convent di Taiping, Perak.

New Commenting System JS Kit

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 02:49 AM PST

Take note that I have a new commenting system in place. You can only post comments on my main page which is this page you are currently on. The commenting system in the other sub blogs has been disabled. This is to enable easy moderation and tracking. Thank you.

Najib Gagal, Serangan Ke Atas Gereja Merebak, Terbaru Gereja Di Melaka

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 03:36 AM PST

Tiga insiden cubaan membakar membabitkan dua buah gereja dan sebuah sekolah berlaku di Taiping awal Ahad selepas dilempar dengan bom api.

Kedua-dua buah gereja berkenaan tidak mengalami kerosakan manakala insiden di Sekolah Menengah Convent Taiping itu membabitkan kerosakan kecil apabila cermin kaca pondok pengawal pecah.

Terbaru, sebuah gereja di Durian Daun Melaka dilemparkan dengan cat hitam, kata Ketua Polis Daerah Melaka Tengah, ACP Sallehhudin Abd Rahman, lapor Malaysian Insider.

Kejadian itu disedari pihak gereja itu kira-kira pukul 9 pagi dan laporan polis dibuat di Ibu Pejabat Polis Melaka Tengah di sini, pada pukul 12.30 tengah hari tadi.

"Kita melihat kes ini secara serius memandangkan ini adalah isu sensitif, polis tidak akan berkompromi dengan mana-mana pihak yang cuba menggugat keharmonian di negara ini," kata beliau kepada pemberita di sini, hari ini.

Dipetik Bernama, Sallehhudin berkata polis sedang menjalankan siasatan mengikut Seksyen 295 Kanun Keseksaan yang membawa hukuman penjara dua tahun atau denda atau kedua-duanya sekali, jika sabit kesalahan.

Sementara itu, Ketua Menteri Melaka Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam menasihati orang ramai supaya bertenang dengan tidak melakukan perbuatan yang boleh menimbulkan ketegangan serta melanggar undang-undang negara.

Sambil meminta polis mengambil tindakan sewajarnya terhadap mereka yang cuba menggugat keharmonian kaum yang dinikmati selama ini, beliau mahu semua pemilik rumah ibadat menjaga rumah ibadat masing-masing dan dalam masa sama polis membuat pemantauan.

Pagi tadi, Menteri Dalam Negeri Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein berkata tujuh buah gereja termasuk yang terbaru di Miri, Sarawak, menjadi sasaran cubaan membakar setakat ini.

PAS Sedia Berdialog, Tindakan Diambil Jika Ahli PAS Sertai Demo Kalimah Allah

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 01:06 AM PST

Dalam usaha mengembalikan keharmonian, gerakan Islam terbesar tanahair bersedia berdialog dengan pihak gereja dalam mengatasi polemik penggunaan kalimah Allah.

Presiden Parti Islam Se-Malaysia Abdul Hadi Awang berkata Pas bersedia merintis jalan mewakili umat Islam Malaysia bagi membendung pertelingkahan dari membarah.

"Pas sedia berdialog dan menghadiri sebarang majlis untuk memberi kefahaman ini kepada rakyat dan kita mengharapkan supaya ruang diberi kepada Pas melalui media supaya kita menjelaskan hakikat ajaran Islam yang sebenar kerana selama ini ajaran Islam sendiri telah ditutup dan dikongkong oleh undang-undang yang ada dalam negara kita," katanya.

"Kalimah Allah ini satu kalimah benar, kalimah yang betul, tetapi dihuraikan dengan cara yang mempunyai matlamat yang salah, ada kalangan yang mengambil kesempatan berkalimah yang suci ini, inilah yang silapnya tidak kira siapa, semua pihak," tambah beliau.

Bercakap kepada media di Taklimat Penerangan Pas di Auditorium Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam hari ini, mengulangi kecaman terhadap keganasan keatas gereja Kristian.

Dalam nada tegas, Hadi berkata Pas tidak akan bertolak-ansur dengan mana-mana ahli yang didapati menyertai perhimpunan membantah kalimah Allah semalam.

"Saya merasa kesal daripada apa yang berlaku itu kerana bukan sahaja boleh menjejaskan hubungan antara kaum dan agama yang harmoni selama ini. Apa yang mendukacitakan sekiranya berlaku daripada orang Islam itu satu benda yang menyentuh ajaran Islam itu sendiri," katanya.

"Cuma kita memberi arahan orang kita jangan libat dalam demonstrasi bukan saya jamin kalau ada orang Pas yang terlibat dalam bakar gereja ini, kita akan ambil tindakan disiplin, dan ada undang-undang dalam Pas untuk ambil tindakan, bila ada ahli yang buat sesuatu yang bercanggah dengan konsep parti kita," tegas beliau. - MOHD SAHRULNIZAM MOHD ZAIN (TVS)

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Social Media is a Fad

Posted: 10 Jan 2010 01:11 AM PST


Think social media (which represents the zillions of conversations on the web) is a fad? I think its far more than a fad,

So much so that my boss uses it to get people, on urgent work matters, she cant using emails.

So much so that if you put all the people in Malaysia who uses Facebook (5.8million - according to ComScore Nov 09) in a state, it will be Malaysia's largest state ahead of Selangor with a population of 5 million.

So much so that China blocked Twitter because it posed a potential threat to national harmony... now isnt that line just so fucking familiar LOL... i guess China is so big they do not want members of their "ISA equivalent" to be chasing Twitterrs everyday

So much so that Malaysian blogspots (not even counting Xanga, Live, WordPress, MySpace) are read by more than 5 million eyeballs, far more than any newspaper in the country. The Star newspaper has a distribution of about 300K.

So much so that in the last general elections, 65% of the voters who switched to the opposition had an influence from blogs (Source: ZentrumFuture)


Well whatever you're thinking now, at least its still more fashionable than building a flash website (with an overkill of branding its weaved into the pixels) that hosts a flash game with branding blowing in your face - you need to wear shades - and encourages participation by giving away a laptop with the branding engraved on the screen & battery & charger however you break it, you'll still see the branding.

And if you dont get it right now, you could prolly still sit in your cubicle because we're talking about 20% of the entire market. But in the next 10 years, there is another 33% of the national population - who are now embracing social media like eating chips - who'll lose touch with you.

Take look at this video:

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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 10:30 PM PST

What actually wrong with picture shown above?... Hmmm.... you might not realize it if you are one of them... but if you realize, you must be a pedestrian who wanted to cross the road in the polluted metropolitan city of Kuala Lumpur... But just figure out how to cross it...

I was trying to cross the road to the other side one evening... What i encountered was the difficulty to cross the road by walking in a straight line... I need to walk crisscross in order to avoid knocking down those INCONSIDERATE motorcyclist who stopped their motorbike on top of the zebra crossing.

BTW, do you know the exhaust pipe of the motorcycles/motorbike were extremely hot... you would burnt your leg if you are not careful while crossing the road. Beside it's also a safety issue for those pedestrian, what if the motorcyclist wanna to rob the pedestrian... they could do it easily while the pedestrian crossed the road.

So dearest motorcyclist... please be CONSIDERATE and DO NOT stop on the zebra... How are you going to cross the road with this situation?

Breast Staring For 10mins A Day Makes Man Live Longer?? OR Eventually Turn Them Into A Perv!

Posted: 09 Jan 2010 11:22 PM PST

According to German research published in New England Journal of Medicine, men staring at women's breasts in fact prolong their lives with years.

"Just 10 minutes of looking at the charms of a well-endowed females is equivalent to a 30-minute aerobics work-out," said author Dr. Karen Weatherby, a gerontologist.

The team led by Weatherby was made up of researchers at three hospitals in Frankfurt, Germany, and found this results after monitoring for 5 years the health of 200 male subjects, half of whom were asked to look at busty females daily, while the other half had to abstain from doing so.

For five years, the breasts oglers presented a lower blood pressure, slower resting pulse rates and decreased risk of coronary artery disease.

"Sexual excitement gets the heart pumping and improves blood circulation. There's no question: Gazing at large breasts makes men healthier. Our study indicates that engaging in this activity a few minutes daily cuts the risk of stroke and heart attack in half." said Weatherby, who even recommends that men aged over 40 should spend at least 10 minutes daily admiring breasts sized "D-cup" or larger.

Happy Birthday Chun Yian!
You're offcially certified to stare at woman's breast!

Sekolah Dan Gereja Di Taiping Pula Diserang

Posted: 09 Jan 2010 10:26 PM PST

Gereja kelima menjadi sasaran serangan malam tadi, kali ini melibatkan All-Saints' Church, gereja yang bersejarah di Taiping, Perak.

Turut menjadi sasaran kali ini ialah Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Convent Taiping, yang beroperasi sejak 1899 tetapi kemudian berpindah ke lokasi baru di Convent Lane pada 1938.

Ia merupakan serangan pertama di luar Lembah Klang yang dilakukan oleh pihak tidak bertanggungjawab sejak Mahkamah Tinggi Kuala Lumpur membenarkan akhbar mingguan Katolik, Herald menggunakan perkataan "Allah".

Polis mengesahkan kedua-dua kejadian itu.

Kedua-dua premis itu dibaling dengan koktel molotov tetapi bom petrol itu tidak meletup.

Gereja Anglikan itu yang terletak di Jalan Taming Sari dibina pada tahun 1886.

Dalam pada itu, pengurusan gereja berkata bom petrol itu yang ditemui di sekolah berkenaan kemungkinan disasarkan terhadap St Louis Church yang terletak bersebelahan.

Ketua Polis Perak Datuk Pahlawan Zulkifli Abdullah berkata kedua-dua kes berkenaan merupakan tindakan pihak yang mengambil kesempatan daripada kejadian-kejadian yang berlaku di Lembah Klang.

"Kami syaki insiden-insiden ini tiada kaitan dengan serangan ke atas gereja berhubung isu Allah. Ini kemungkinan perbuatan nakal pihak-pihak yang mahu mengambil kesempatan," katanya.

Bagaimanapun kata beliau pihaknya tidak akan memandang mudah, sebaliknya akan menyiasat kedua-dua kes sebagai perbuatan khianat.

"Mereka yang melakukannya akan dikenakan tindakan," katanya.

Laporan polis dibuat selepas pihak gereja menemui serpihan dua botol di pekarangan gereja itu.

Zulkifli berkata kesan tanda hitam juga ditemui pada premis itu, sekali gus menjurus pihaknya untuk percaya bahawa kemungkinan ia adalah kes percubaan membakar.

Dalam satu lagi kes, pengawal SMK Convent Taiping menemui kesan yang sama iaitu serpihan botol di kawasan sekolah.

Polis mengesyaki botol-botol itu dibaling kira-kira 3.30 pagi tadi.

"Dalam kedua-dua kejadian ini bagaimanapun tiada kemusnahan dilaporkan.

"Pegawai forensik kami sedang menyiasat untuk melihat sama ada kedua-dua kes ini adalah percubaan untuk membakar bangunan," katanya.

Semalam polis menerima satu lagi laporan mengenai cubaan membakar sebuah gereja, Good Shepherd Lutheran Church di Jalan Othman, Petaling Jaya, menjadikannya empat kes setakat petang semalam.

Bagaimanapun, polis percaya insiden tersebut berlaku serentak dengan tiga insiden kelmarin masing-masing d Petaling Jaya, Desa Melawati dan Damansara dan hanya dilaporkan pada pukul 2 petang semalam.

Menteri Dalam Negeri Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein juga megesahkan laporan terbaru itu.

Ketua Polis Negara Tan Sri Musa Hassan berkata pihak polis sudah menemui sedikit petunjuk mengenai suspek yang dipercayai membakar Gereja Metro Tabernacle, namun belum dapat mengenalpasti bangsa atau kewarganegaraannya.

"Saksi yang juga pengawal keselamatan sedang membantu kita bagi mengenalpasti individu tersebut. Kita percaya kesemua insiden ini dilakukan oleh kumpulan berlainan berdasarkan modus operandi yang berbeza," katanya.
Mempunyai foto percutian yang hebat? Bolehkah ia memenangi pertandingan foto ini?

Tiga premis lain yang diserang kelmarin ialah Gereja Assumption dan Gereja Life Chapel di Petaling Jaya dan Gereja Metro Tabernacle di Desa Melawati, Kuala Lumpur.

Bagaimanapun, lontaran koktel molotov ke atas Gereja Metro Tabernacle menyebakan letupan disusuli kebakaran. -MI

What's next after church attacks in Malaysia?

Posted: 09 Jan 2010 09:05 PM PST

He could lose votes in the states of Sabah and Sarawak which have larger Christian populations. Sarawak has 31 MPs and Sabah 25, home to just two opposition MPs. The government has 137 seats in a 222-member parliament.

Malaysian Muslims rallied on Friday to protest against Christians using the word "Allah" for God after a spate of attacks on churches which threatened to stoke racial and religious tensions.
Following are some questions and answers on what lies ahead in this majority Muslim Southeast Asian country of 28 million.

The risk is small but analysts do not discount tensions coming to a boil between the majority Malays who are Muslim and ethnic Chinese and Indian minorities who practice a range of faiths such as Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism.

It mostly depends on whether Prime Minister Najib Razak's government comes down hard on the arsonists who attacked the churches. Usually at any sign of trouble the government uses the Internal Security Act that allows detention without trial.

The government says the attacks have been carried out by disaffected or criminal youths and that they are not coordinated.

What may hold back ethnic clashes is the memory of the bloody 1969 riots that divided the country.

Protests on Friday at mosques against the non-Muslim use of the word Allah have been peaceful although the language on banners and speeches suggests growing anger.

After the arson attempts against the churches, possibly. Religious disputes are a risk mostly in their potential to increase ethnic tensions, making it important for investors to see how the government handles the issue.

Investors have been avoiding Malaysia due to the lacklustre government of Najib's predecessor and Najib is working hard to implement economic reforms to win back investment.
Malaysia was one of the worst-performing stock markets in Asia in 2009, ranked fourth from the bottom. Malaysia's benchmark share index rose 45 percent in 2009.

During a meeting with investors in New York last year, Najib was asked about the government's stand over the caning sentence meted out to a Muslim woman for drinking beer under rarely-enforced Islamic criminal laws.

An escalation of religious tensions in Malaysia could weaken Najib's ability to push through economic reforms.

The issue stems from a Malaysian Catholic newspaper's successful legal bid last week to overturn a government ban against the paper's use of the word "Allah" to describe the Christian God in its Malay language edition.

Their argument is that use of the word Allah has been common among non-English speaking Malaysian Christians in the Borneo island states of Sabah and Sarawak for decades.
The government since has obtained a stay of execution on the judgment this week amid growing Malay-Muslim anger. The case is also before the Appeal's court and the verdict there can still be challenged at the Federal Court, Malaysia's top court.

It is illegal for non-Muslims to proselytise to Muslims but freedom of worship for the mainly Buddhist, Christian and Hindu religious minorities, who make up 40 percent of the country's population, is guaranteed under the constitution.

The coalition, which ruled Malaysia for 52 years, suffered its worst-ever setbacks in national and state elections in 2008 after being abandoned by non-Malays in part due to unease over an increasing Islamisation.

Religious tensions will jeopardise Prime Minister Najib Razak's ability to win back ethnic Chinese and Indian voters in the next general election, which must be held by 2013. The opposition and some political commentators say that Najib failed to show leadership on the church issue.

He could lose votes in the states of Sabah and Sarawak which have larger Christian populations. Sarawak has 31 MPs and Sabah 25, home to just two opposition MPs. The government has 137 seats in a 222-member parliament.

The three-party opposition People's Alliance led by former Deputy Premier Anwar Ibrahim is regarded as having played the religious row much more skilfully than the government.
While stressing its Muslim credentials, the Pan Malaysian Islamic Party (PAS) has appealed for tolerance as has Anwar. PAS has also managed to keep its Islamic credentials intact.

By Niluksi Koswanage, Reuters

(Reporting by Razak Ahmad, Niluksi Koswanage and Soo Ai Peng; Editing by David Chance and Sugita Katyal)

Kelantan 1977 revisited: to understand Selangor 2010

Posted: 09 Jan 2010 08:17 PM PST

ABIM, TERAS, PERKASA, PPIM, PKPIM, PEWARIS, KIMMA, PEKIDA, etc. What do all these NGOs, associations and movements have in common?

Well, they all serve the Umno agenda under the guise of 'protecting' Islam.To understand Umno's agenda you have to take a walk down memory lane, all the way back to Kelantan in 1977.

In 1977, Umno wanted to bring down the PAS state government of Kelantan. So Hussein Ahmad 'imported' some gangsters from across the border town of Golok, Thailand, and paid them to burn Chinese shops, houses and cars.(Hussein Ahmad used to be a rice smuggler in Rantau Panjang before he became a Cabinet Minister so he had good links with the Thai underworld in Golok).

Kota Bharu was in utter chaos so the federal government had 'no choice' but to declare an emergency in Kelantan and suspend the Kelantan State Assembly for a few months. Then, fresh state elections were held in March 1978 (only for the State Assembly and not for the Parliament seats) ahead of the 1978 General Election.

Invariably, Umno swept Kelantan and PAS was kicked out where it remained in the opposition until Umno split into two (Umno Baru and Semangat 46), which enabled PAS, in 'joint venture' with Semangat 46, to take back the state in the 1990 General Election.Read: Kelantan Emergency of December 1977 (

Remember Malaysia Today wrote some months ago that Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak plans to take back Selangor around January 2010? Pakatan Rakyat of course denied that this would happen. Maybe they thought Najib was going to pull off another Perak exercise by buying over some Pakatan Rakyat State Assemblypersons.Of course, in Perak this was possible because of the narrow three-seat majority that Pakatan Rakyat had whereas Pakatan Rakyat has a much larger majority in Selangor.

So it is not that easy.But there is more than one way to skin a feline and who better than Najib when it comes to skinning pussies? In fact, he can even make the fairer sex and their immigration records disappear if he wants to.

That is how good he is with pussies.And another way of skinning felines of any kind is to do a repeat of Kelantan 1977. Trigger another chaos in the state, declare an emergency, suspend the State Assembly, and a few months later call for new state elections with maybe an 'Operasi Lalang 2' thrown in for good measure.

Notice that the church burnings and car smashing are only in Selangor and Kuala Lumpur? Kelantan and Terengganu have a Muslim population of more than 97%. And there are churches in these predominantly Muslim states as well. Why are there no problems there?

In fact, other than Selangor and Kuala Lumpur, there are no problems in any other parts of Malaysia.Simple, really -- the target is Selangor, the jewel in Pakatan Rakyat's crown. Najib wants back Selangor and he wants it back this month.

So Umno has to do a Kelantan December 1977' revisited to get back Selangor in January 2010. And that is why Umno paid its goons to burn churches just in Selangor and Kuala Lumpur but not in any other area in Malaysia.

Yes, I know, they are now going to make another police report against me for this article. But with about 15 or 20 police reports made against me over the last year alone, does one more make any difference?Now let's all sing the song 'Get me to the church on time'! (See video on Youtube here:

Malay rights group Perkasa has lodged a police report against Malaysiakini over a comment posted by a reader in the online news daily.The report, which was made by Perkasa secretary-general Syed Hassan Syed Ali late yesterday, said that the comment could offend the sensitivities of the Muslim community.

The National Union of Malaysian Muslim Students (PKPIM) lodged a police report against Herald for its usage of 'Allah' in its Catholic publication.The report was lodged at the Dang Wangi police station today at 3.30 pm following a protest at the Kampung Baru Mosque earlier today.

Abu Qasim Nurazmi, the deputy president of PKPIM accompanied by Muhamad Raimi Abdul Rahim, the secretary-general of ABIM filed the report.They alleged that The Herald is using 'Allah' in their publication with malicious intent and that their action is mala fide."We urge the police to conduct a through investigation on the motive of The Herald for insisting on using 'Allah' in their publication," said Abu Qasim said.

In the police report, the Muslim group said The Herald should respect Article 11 (4) of Federal Constitution and not try to confuse the Muslim community.Article 11 (4) states that State law and in respect of the Federal Territories of Kuala Lumpur and Labuan, federal law may control or restrict the propagation of any religious doctrine or belief among persons professing the religion of Islam.

According to Muhamad Raimi, state Islamic departments in 10 states have issued a fatwa against propagation of other religions to Muslims."Thus, we feel that The Herald is disregarding the provisions of the Federal Constitution and disrespecting Islam, creating disharmony among Malaysians," he said. Abu Qasim agreed and felt it could lead to further chaos in the country if The Herald does not respect that Islam is the official religion in the country.

Earlier, cries of 'Allahu Akbar!' and 'Takbir' were heard moments after Friday prayers concluded in the Kampung Baru mosque.About 50 people gathered within the compounds to protest against the usage of the word 'Allah' by non-Muslims.Calling it a "Youth Awareness Campaign", the group proceeded with their speeches despite calls to "go home" by other Muslims who were leaving the mosque."

The churches have already been blown up, and now you want to 'blow up' here as well? Just go home!" said one man. However, the group's leaders were quick to add that they condemned the incidents of arson on the three churches.

'Accept the fact, Islam is the official religion'

Representing 38 NGOs including Abim, PPKIM and Sahabat Insan dan Iman, the group presented a declaration titled: "Declaration for Harmony between Religions".

It said all must "understand and respect sensitivities of Muslims, and accept that Islam is the official religion of Malaysia and that the constitution was written based on this fact."It also said society must "realise that the consitution has placed Islam in a special place and this has been agreed upon by those of different religions and races in Malaysia.

"Thus, the NGOs called for "a halt on all claims on matters pertaining to Islam that disrupts and hurt the feelings of Muslims, and undermines national safety".They also said matters like the 'Allah' issue must be "handled out of court".

However, Muhammad Raimi said they supported the Home Ministry's decision to appeal the lift of the ban on the usage of the word 'Allah' by the The Herald.He stressed that they respected the court's decision, but are gathering to show their dissatisfaction regarding the issue.

'Don't test our patience'"We want to send a message that this is a sensitive issue. Leave 'Allah' for the Muslims," he said, matching banners which read: "The word 'Allah' is only for us".Others who spoke included Zaim Shaari from Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia who said: "We don't want our land to be colonised."

"There is a limit to our patience; don't challenge us or try to incite our anger. We do not want to invite altercations. If we can respect other religions then why can't they respect us and not try to mix everything in one bag?" he asked.PKPIM president Muhammad Faisal Abdul Aziz called on all Muslims leaders in the country to produce a joint statement "to defend the word 'Allah'".

"This is not a political issue, so I urge the leaders to overcome the political divide and to unite in the name of 'Allah'," he said.Despite what the group claimed that the use of 'Allah' by non-Muslims offends all Muslims, members of the faith appear divided on the matter.

Groups like the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) supported the lifting of the ban.

Muhammad Raimi said: "Perhaps they have this view because they are a minority (in North America). They are entitled to their own views but we don't agree with them."

by Malaysiakini

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